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Bamboo rod repair

Doubletaper

Just finished a River Runs Through it!
Recently I built a bamboo rod from a blank bought from tim zietak. after applying the varnish letting it dry I found 4 dust mark's on a varnish job that is perfect. I don't want to strip the rod of the varnish just for a couple of dust mark's ,so my question is; how do I remove these imperfection's with-out having to sand out the whole rod?
 
I have no problem with directing people to other sites, but it wouldn't hurt to have a little bamboo rod discussion here every so often!

I'd like to know what would cause a bamboo rod to 'zig zag' on two tips. The rod has only been used 4-5 times and always taken care of. Tips have always been alternated and the fish caught on the rod were certainly not substantial catches.
 
Dennis,

What do you mean by "Zig Zag"?It sounds like you might have a "Set"(Bend from Casting or Hook Set) in the Rod.If so I to have had this problem too with a Rod I recently bought.I used it twice and caught some Fish and notice my Tip wasn't Straight anymore.I asked about this Problem on that Site and received a few Replies.Here they are but there kinda long but if this is your problem it will give you insight on it.But before I get into that Subject I say you Posted a Thread sometime ago about a Quad you bought from Zietak and Casting was a bit ackward.I just Bought a Quad also and love it!Try Cortland's Sylk Line in WF or DT and see how you like it.I noticed that Plastic really made the Rod Load slow.Sylk made it much faster but you have to really concentrate on Timing.People say that Quads are the closest to Graphite.Below is the Thread about "Bamboo Sets"


Rolemodel
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Post: 15
(3/27/05 18:20)
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I was wondering if there was a way to straighten a Tip once it starts getting a "Set" in the Rod?I read,while fighting fish you can flip the Rod so the Reel is Facing up to equally apply pressure to both sides of the Rod to avoid a Set from happening.

redhawknc1
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Posts: 79
(3/27/05 20:13)
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I would also like to know more about preventing "set" in the tips! I have 4 new rods, but generally new to bamboo and want to make sure I don't do things to promote a "set". Can leaning against a wall or tree promote a "set",etc? What are the general rules in preventing this?

pvansch1
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Posts: 297
(3/27/05 20:13)
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Heat it gently with a heat gun. If its too hot to hold it's too hot. apply the heat and bend in the opposite direction and hold for it to cool. Work in small areas.
Pete

rsagebrush
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Posts: 3
(3/27/05 21:20)
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Don't pretend your Granger 8040, Leonard mod 50 or other light rods are good for dredger flies. They were never made for these uses. Use the appropriate equipment for the job. And sometimes they just take a set after a while-that life and a nice battle scar on the rod. Fix it in the winter when you have time.

Canewrap
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Posts: 397
(3/28/05 9:06)
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Like rsagebrush said, you gonna fish bamboo get used to the idea of sets. Some rods will take gentle sets, no matter what you do and sets do return, even after heat straightening. The only way I've found that deals with severe sets that come back after heat straightening, is to strip all the guides off and rotate the tip 180 degrees and then remount the guides. This usually will keep the set from coming back for quite a while. But, its rare that you have a rod that you fish hard and it doesn't develop at least a slight set. There are rods that never develop a set, but that's the exception rather than the rule. Bamboo is a natural material.

Bill W.

Edited by: Canewrap at: 3/28/05 9:43

kam4
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Posts: 36
(3/28/05 22:15)
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Hi All,

I find most all of the few Bamboo Rods I fish show a bit of "fishing set' or slight bend when I give them a sighting along the shaft at the end of the day or back at home. I now have developed a habit, at the end of a fishing day or trip, to sight down the rod (or more accurately the tip section or rod) and check ouyt the direction of set. I find these are just slight, and counter bend them without heat, and most times they become generally straight again. I give the section a bit of rigorous, variable direction wiggle, check straightmness again, and put the now improved straight rod to bed in the tube. During our Winters, I find my activities wandering from tying up another dozen traditional "Tups Indespensibles" to touching up the odd varnish chip and ultimately sitting in my parlor window with good mid day sunlight critically checking out the straightness of my 60+ year old rods with my 58+ year old eyes. When I find sufficient motivation, patience and courage, I fire up a smallish electric hair blower I abscounded with from my dear wife years ago. I then sight down the varnished, finished shafts andmake my best estimate of where the bends begin. I heat up the general area, on all sides, to a conservative warmness, just good and warm to touch but definately not "HOT" and put in my best estimate of a good counterbend for 15 to 30 seconds. Give the cooled section a bit of shake to "equalize" the newly applied counterstress and recheck for straightness. I have found, with a goodly amount of patience (and what flyfisher worth his salt shouldn't have this attribute) the "fishing sets" or casting sets (and we all can't cast arrow straight like Frank Steele or Steve Rayjeff)can be eliminated or reduced to next to inperceptable. Don't Overdoo the Heat. Have not damaged varnish so far with these methods, but intuitively realize a bit more temperature would be problematic.

Kenny

ftcollins
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Posts: 40
(3/28/05 23:51)
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Does anyone know when a fishing set becomes more than an aesthetic problem? I'm not a casting expert by any stretch of the imagination, but I can't detect any difference in a tip that has a moderate fishing set and a straight tip. It doesn't seem that my casting distance or accuracy is affected.

Mike

jaybird
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Posts: 235
(3/29/05 8:59)
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Mike:

I've fished rods with major sets and it has made no practical difference in my casting while fishing.
 
FP, you can lightly sand those out with 1000 grit sand paper and then just revarnish that spot with a artists paint brush.
 
Hello, try a little pummice stoe power ad camilla oil, hope the spelling is correct, or turtle wax rubbing compond should work. Then apply bowling alley wax, and buffly lightly. in peace yellowhammer
 
What Yellow said.

Regarding sets...

I fished bamboo for eons and two things I can tell you for sure. Better rods don't have the problem as much as cheaper rods.

That being said you can do things to help prevent them.

First of all, rotate the rod while playing a fish to distribute the load on all flats.

Do the same when nymphing or fishing wets if you are seeing a bend in the rod as you drift.

This tip was told to me by Vince Marinaro, a pretty good builder in his own right:

Play the fish as much as possible from the reel while trying to keep the rod as parallel to the ground as possible.

It all sound like a bit of a hassle but all of my cane rods are as straight as an arrow from doing the above.
 
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