I'm sorry to take so long to get back to JeffK and PRomano to thank them for their quick response to my questions concerning the two bamboo rods that i purchased. I'm an extreme novice when it comes to computers so it takes me awhile to figure out what thread and tags are. Hopefully, I've thanked these two people in the right place. If not, I would welcome someone, anyone to help me so that I know these that helped me got a thankyou. lndrifty