Glad you all had fun Allan. I had a BLAST in Idaho. It was my second time tying at the E.I.F.T./F.F. EXPO and it is SOME EVENT! Just had to "chose" the two day event over a one day event. Sure wish you could make it out there and tye at that event some time. It's incredable, something like 120 tyers. Three shifts on Fri. (8:00 a.m. to 11:00 a.m., 11:30 a.m. to 2:30 p.m. and 3:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m.) and two shifts on Sat. (8:00 to noon, and noon to 4:00 p.m.). I did the middle shift on Fri. and the Early shift on Sat. Left me plenty of time to watch others and go to a few tying demos, and crash a class or two, lol. You don't get much sleep out there, what with all the fun in the bar each night. But that's where all the cats are hangin' SO............... later, mark.....