tyeing materials

[Trout Fever]

hey guys could you take a look at this material kit from cabelas and let me know if im no the right path to tye some catskill flies drys nymphs and emergers


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This kit is designed for the beginning tier who wants to start with a large generous supply of the most-used materials.
With each kit, you receive:
Three spools of UTC 70 thread, one spool UTC 280 thread, two spools of floss, two spools of lead wire, four cards of Ultra chenille, two packages of Zonker strips, squirrel tail, rabbit fur dubbing dispenser, super-fine dry-fly dubbing dispenser, four spools of wire and tinsel, deer hair patch, kip tail, four bucktail pieces (black, yellow, chartreuse, natural), peacock herl, pheasant tail, two packages of goose biots, CDC feathers, turkey tail feathers, four packages of marabou, two packages of mallard flank, two rooster necks plus 16 packages of assorted Dry, Nymph, Wet and Streamer hooks in assorted sizes, elk hair patch, moose body hair patch, black and tan foam strip, black rubber legs, gold beads, package of grizzly hackle and a bottle of head cement.

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[JUSTYN]

Looks like a nice kit with a lot of useful materials to tie a lot of nymphs, dries and streamers. good luck have fun and less is more

 

[flytire]

i would stay away from buying a "kit"

pick out 5-10 fly patterns that you want to tie and buy those materials. this set of materials will be the building block for the future.

once your ready to expand your patterns, buy the required materials and add to your tying supplies.

 

[golden beetle]

i would stay away from buying a "kit"

pick out 5-10 fly patterns that you want to tie and buy those materials. this set of materials will be the building block for the future.

once your ready to expand your patterns, buy the required materials and add to your tying supplies.

This is a good post. When I started tying, it was elk hair caddis only - no other patterns. I tied ehc for nearly two years, sporadically, before the fly tying bug hit me hard.

Now, I tie only a few flies, but the foundation you get from mastering just one pattern is useful for most other patterns I have found.

One mayfly, for example, tied well, means that you can probably tackle all the mayflies in fairly short order.

What do the true fly tyers here think?

 

[PRomano]

This is a good post. When I started tying, it was elk hair caddis only - no other patterns. I tied ehc for nearly two years, sporadically, before the fly tying bug hit me hard.

Now, I tie only a few flies, but the foundation you get from mastering just one pattern is useful for most other patterns I have found.

One mayfly, for example, tied well, means that you can probably tackle all the mayflies in fairly short order.

What do the true fly tyers here think?

I agree with Flytire also. Kits are a waste of money. Like he said make a short list and just purchase those materials that you need.

I'll even make up a short list for you.
Nymphs- Pheasant Tail with and without beads. Hears Ear- ditto.
Streamer- Black Woolly Buggers.
Dries- Elk Hair caddis in 2 or 3 different colors and Adams dry fly (Catskill or Parachute).

 

[FlyRodBum]

While kits may look like a good deal and the way to go for a beginner, don't do it! All the ingredients tend to be inferior stuff, and make tying down right miserable. Take your time and buy your stuff wisely. The vise is the most important part so buy quality (renzetti, dyna-king, etc). The good ones are bullet proof so there is no problem buying a used one. Add a decent pair of scissors, a bobbin (tiemco), and a whip finisher (matarelli) and your good to go. Keeping your patterns to a minimum is good advice. Learn to tie a few well and then expand. And it's all about the materials; the natural stuff (hair, feathers, etc.). Most of it is crap! Find a mentor to not only teach you technique, but also how to choose your materials. It will speed the learning curve a great deal.<O</O

 

[Trout Fever]

hey guys thanks for the advice i found a elk hair caddis starter kit gives you enough material for 4 #12 4 #14 4 #16 flies just to see if i can do it then ill venture out to the 40 dollar hackle saddles once i try ill post a couple pictures i think i have the concept down


thanks
john

 

[catskilljohn]

Kits are geared for someone who wants to try fly tying and knows nothing about it. The selection of hooks and basic materials are good for a person that wants to get there feet wet without knowing alot [or anything] about materials. If you are seriously considering tying flies as a hobby and to keep your boxes full [along with your friends boxes], then I would pass on the kit and as stated above, focus on a few patterns and buy the materials accordingly.

You can add to that as your desire to try new patterns grows, and you dont have any "waste" from the kit.

On the other hand, a kit gives you a little of everything, enabling you to try different patterns [drys, streamers, wets, etc.] and you have a selection of hooks, feathers and dubbing that with an open mind can produce alot of flies. The kits of today are better quality than 20 years ago [as are most materials] and the stuff Cabelas uses in their kits are the same materials you are buying in packages off the wall in their stores.

Either way, you will enjoy tying! Its the thing you can do in any weather, or when the water is too warm to fish! CJ