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Stripers

Kenny Joe

The Flow
Sunday the 18th I will be trying for some stripers in the rips at Cape May. The captains of the boat I am chartering use bucktails. Any suggestions on fly patterns for early season Stripers?? Also have a new flyline that has loops on both ends. What knot will work best attaching it to my 30lb gelspun??
 
Kenny, i'm not much of a striper fisherman, have only done it a couple time and landed nothing. But, i can put you in touch with the best there is. I'll try to find his number and post it here. His name is Joe Soma, and he's a terrific guide and fly tyer. I see him four or five times a year at the shows. He's one of the top striper guys in New Jersey. I've got his flies in my gallery in his card, so i CAN find his number. It is now 6:00 a.m. so.........Also, you don't use a "knot" to attach your leader to that line. You put a loop in the leader and loop to loop it to the line. Dig? mark...........
 
Thank You njflyguy. I will check it out! Mark, I think you misunderstood, I am connecting backing to flyline. Thanks
 
Flies to try

My standard searcher fly for early season stripers and blues is a chartreuse and white clouser tied on a tiemco 9394 3x long saltwater hook #2 or #1 or even 1/0.

I like to work it in steady, 18-24 inch strips on an intermediate line. But if you are working deep water fom a boat a fast sink line is the way to go and the clouser works fine like that too.

I also like the Ken Abrames style flatwing flies, but typically they seem to work better a little later in the season, for me anyways.

At night I like to use a large 1/2 & 1/2, black tied on varivas 994 saltwater hook. It's a killer on June nights.

Hope this helps. ;)
 
Tip

Oh and.......DO NOT SET THE HOOK WITH THE ROD!!!

You could break it on a large fish. And yes, I mean the rod. Strip-strike is the way to go. It's hard to do if you're used to setting the hook with the rod and that first take gets your adrenaline going!

Also: The take can be deceptively light......keep your line hand in contact at all times, they drop it quick.

One more thing: Be careful. Stripers can ruin you for trout.

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Speaking of the words "stripers" "ruin" and "trout" in the same sentence, do you think that when you are out fishing down there by Cape May, you could see what you could do about scaring a few of them up the Delaware? I've heard of a few of them making it all the way up to Hancock. I know, this is not so great for the trout, but what I wouldn't give to land a striped bass out of the Junction Pool! Wouldn't trout fisherman think I was nuts using flies half as big as some of the trout they catch?!
John
 
Gottacha Kenny. Try a nail knot, or blood knot. Good luck, and i gotta feelin' this guy Steve M here, done forgot more than i'll ever know about it. LOL. That strip strikle stuff for instance, all the pros say the same thing. If your not sure that you might be getting into blues by accident also, make sure you have a bit of a wire leader there. Steve'll fill you in i bet. mark.........
 
The rips are practically around the corner from me. It's been very slow for stripers so far, which is normal. I went out yesterday and couldn't connect with anything, but it sure was a nice day for a boat ride. Guys that are catching are chunking herring and/or using bloodworms, typical early season stuff. The rips are a different game, though. You should do well bouncing big white jigs off the bottom. Herring is the main forage right now. Depending on which rip you fish, it may be hard to fly fish. Some rips have standing waves in them, while others show themselves with just a slight ripple on the surface, easy to miss. Your guide should be able to put you on the right rips.

nless you have a super fast sinking line, like at least a 500-grain sinktip, you're pretty much wasting your time in the early season. The water is fairly deep and running through there, so you need a very heavy line to get down to the fish. You might get lucky and fall into a herring blitz on the surface, but it's still pretty early for that. The water yesterday barely made it to 48 out in the bay, so the action is still slow. By next week it may warm up though. 55 and up is the temp you're looking for. I heard of one herring blitz last week during that warm spell, but that was it.

Flies to use would be something that will make the bass move for a hearty meal. Heavy and wide half & halfs, big chunky deceivers, slab flies, and anything else that looks like a big herring will work. Here is a quick shot of one I recently tied up on a 4/0 hook. It's not pretty, but looks good in the water. 7" is actually a little on the small side, but workable. 10" or more is a good sized herring fly, but I didn't feel like going to the trouble of putting mono extensions and all that into it. I'd use a 6/0 or even 8/0 for a herring fly bigger than 10".

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By the way, no blues are around yet, so wire leader won't be needed. A good 5' shot of 20lb leader will work fine with a sinking line. I'd use nothing less than a 10wt in the rips. An 11 or 12wt is even better. For a loop-to-loop system, just use a bimini twist on the backing. Bimini twists are much easier than people make them out to be, too, so don't be afraid to use it as it is a 100% knot. A spider hitch will work as well and is 100%, but it's not as dependable. Both can be found with a search on the web. If the loops that were provided on your line are of the braided kind, cut them off and whip new loops in the line. Braided attachments are fine for trout, but will fill fail on large fish, which you'll probably get in the rips. If the loops are spliced into the line, then you're fine.

Don't forget, don't ever touch the gelspun with your fingers if you have a fish on. Those superbraids will chop your finger right off!!
 
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I'd go with Fyl Ty R's advice. Deep water rips need that fast sink line. I typically fish shallow, back-bay flats and surf. So I use intermediate line 90% of the time.

I have never fished in the cape may area, I mostly fish Raritan bay, sandy hook and south to belmar or IBSP. I have fished the rips at watch hill RI, and it can be some awesome fishing. Again, deep, fast water, fast sinking lines and big flies for big fish!

I have to warn you: If you hook a few fish that get you into backing......say 8# and up.......you are going to be looking for it again. Stripers have cut into my trout fishing big-time!
 
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I guess because the ocean is so close to me, I really don't feel like saltwater fish distract me from trout. I only do it because it's convenient. Sure, I've gotten (and lost) a few bass to 20lbs on the fly, something I'll never do with trout, but it's a different feeling. Driving to the nearest rock-strewn trout stream is at least 3 hours in any direction from my house. Conversely, I can fly fish for stripers off the dock in my backyard. But I always pine away for those cool misty mornings or evenings on the stream, fishing to rising trout. I guess it's all in where you live.


And anyway, I'd rather catch one 10lb+ weakie or blue on the fly than 10 beefy stripers... :)
 
Thanks, everyone. I only hope my sinking line will do for me. It is only 300gr, but there will be others on the boat with enough gear for a small army. I never let lack of equipment stop me from tryiong and usually success! I used the bimini in my backing and it was so simple it practically tied itself. I will give a report Monday.
And again, thank you all.
 
Kenny, here is Joe Soma's number. Joe "Honey" Soma, 856-339-4465. Certified Master Fly Tyer..........so his card says. He's a really nice cat, great sense of humor. Gotta a hell of a boat. What more could you ask. LOL. mark.........
 
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