Update on Musky Gorge restoration/dam removals

[Rusty Spinner]

We are beginning to talk about this to get public support at no cost to the taxpayer in the end and nearly 5 miles of the lower Musky restored including the Musconetcong Gorge and having that in the hands of the Division for public access hunting and fishing. Here's the plan as put forth by our partners who own the defunct Warren Glen and Hughesville paper mills:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-kg1INTzCA

 

[Rusty Spinner]

Another video they produced for the effort:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ5p9y-6mTI

 

[Oliver10]

We are beginning to talk about this to get public support at no cost to the taxpayer in the end and nearly 5 miles of the lower Musky restored including the Musconetcong Gorge and having that in the hands of the Division for public access hunting and fishing. Here's the plan as put forth by our partners who own the defunct Warren Glen and Hughesville paper mills:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-kg1INTzCA

I am very excited and pleased about this! I have one question. In the video around 3min 10 seconds it talks about how they will pay for this. Selling Mitigation property and Mitigation Banking. What does that mean?

 

[Rusty Spinner]

I am very excited and pleased about this! I have one question. In the video around 3min 10 seconds it talks about how they will pay for this. Selling Mitigation property and Mitigation Banking. What does that mean?

I'm still learning the finer details on this myself, so I'm still vague with those details until I can learn more. But it would become a site where federal projects like new highway construction would set aside a certain amount of funds to mitigate the damage they will be doing by building the highway towards a valuable project such as this where dams are removed, river channels are restored, old mill buildings are removed and the site cleaned up all of which benefits the public who will then have access to this restored land and for those taking drinking water out of the Delaware River which includes Philadelphia, Trenton and Camden downstream from the Musky to name a few.

As I learn more myself, I'll be sure to share. IPP has brought in a big gun who has done this successfully in other states for former industrial or military sites. The cherry on top is the restoration followed by open public access to the Musconetcong Gorge.

 

[Oliver10]

I'm still learning the finer details on this myself, so I'm still vague with those details until I can learn more. But it would become a site where federal projects like new highway construction would set aside a certain amount of funds to mitigate the damage they will be doing by building the highway towards a valuable project such as this where dams are removed, river channels are restored, old mill buildings are removed and the site cleaned up all of which benefits the public who will then have access to this restored land and for those taking drinking water out of the Delaware River which includes Philadelphia, Trenton and Camden downstream from the Musky to name a few.

As I learn more myself, I'll be sure to share. IPP has brought in a big gun who has done this successfully in other states for former industrial or military sites. The cherry on top is the restoration followed by open public access to the Musconetcong Gorge.

Thanks. So like Carbon trading. Basically this project gets deemed positive and before other negative projects happen else where they buy the right to do bad things by giving money to this good project. I like it.

 

[Rusty Spinner]

Thanks. So like Carbon trading. Basically this project gets deemed positive and before other negative projects happen else where they buy the right to do bad things by giving money to this good project. I like it.

Basically, yes. A ponzi scheme from the sounds of it. I think for every mile of stream disturbed or acre removed, they need to mitigate at a 3:1 ratio. The boss and I just spoke about this a few minutes ago. Meeting with IPP the week after next, so I'll learn a lot more between now and then. Unless you and our fellow NEFFers can just float us the $40 million in cash? :crap:


Lightenup is going to have to put in some overtime at the drive thru window down there in Clinton.

 

[Pete]

......at no cost to the taxpayer in the end .....

..... federal projects like new highway construction would set aside a certain amount of funds .......

Just a technicality, but....
Federal money comes from taxes too.

 

[Rusty Spinner]

Just a technicality, but....
Federal money comes from taxes too.

True. What I meant was no additional taxes for NJ taxpayers beyond the taxes all of us pay federally. Thanks for correcting that. I think the contractor technically pays into the mitigation bank for work they are to do to build the highways, but obviously they would factor than in to their bid and their bid funds would be federal dollars. So yes, the taxpayer pays in the end. Don't we always? :crap:

 

[lightenup]

Lightenup is going to have to put in some overtime at the drive thru window down there in Clinton.

Unfortunately, I am one of the only salaried drive-thru workers inthe country...OT won't help anyone!!!!!

except the fat pig that gets 2 Big Macs everyday with extra special sauce...uking-smiley: