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MACFLY
Too many streams too little time
I feel sometimes as if I am in a parallel universe. Ok lets try one more time. The rod has a money back guarantee. Buy it, cast it, stroke it, poke a bear with it, pick your nose with it. If you are not satisfied return it for a full refund. Seems pretty cut and dry to me. What am I missing? I am sure that more expensive rods are in my future, hell I could have paid for college with what I have spent on flyfishing over the years. I am going to try and get up to this rodbuilding event one the 12th. I will even bring my lowly 325.00 bamboo rod with me and whoever is there is welcome to cast it and tell me everything that is wrong with it....Seriously though Ronbo thanks for your input. Check out the link I sent to Trouser Trout if you have a moment and let me know what you think of the presidential series of blanks. Since I am new to my addiction I want to make sure I am not paying for bad stuff..see I even sound like a junkie. Peace out
Ronbo
Life's short fish bamboo!!
Macfly
This is what I found on the Anglers Roost website.
Write or Call about the Great Pretender Line of Presidential Blanks and Rods. Re-Creations of the Famous Tapers of the Most Famous Rod Makers. You will be Amazed at the Quality. The Rods are all made ( only assembled ) here in the U.S. by Rod Builder Jim Mills of Cherokee, N.C. The Blanks themselves are Hand Made by a Marvelous Craftsman Overseas. Only the Finest Kiln Dried Tonkin Cane is used on these Blanks. The Blanks all come with Two Tips and a Cloth Bag. They are truly Supurb in every way. They are Arrow Straight. Just Think....Now you can Build your own Hardy Marvell at a fraction of the $ 3,000.00 it would cost you today to buy one. The Tapers are all taken from Gould's Book Tips and Tapers. They Follow the original tapers to the T.
Most of the current rodmakers have tweeked the old tapers to make them more refined
and better suited for todays fishing.
I hollow build some of my models to lighten and smooth out the action.
I developed this over 8 years of rodbuilding
These blanks are made in china by Zues rod company.
The quality of their early rods was very bad with delaminations and the ferrules coming off. I have heard that their quality has improved:nose-picking:
I do not recomend these rods.
The only thing that matters is if you like the rod and the way it casts.
only time will tell if it will hold up to fishing.
If you make it up to the Catskills on the 12 th. I would like to see it
Hope it works out for you and turns out to be a great rod.
The green writing was added by me.
Ronbo
This is what I found on the Anglers Roost website.
Write or Call about the Great Pretender Line of Presidential Blanks and Rods. Re-Creations of the Famous Tapers of the Most Famous Rod Makers. You will be Amazed at the Quality. The Rods are all made ( only assembled ) here in the U.S. by Rod Builder Jim Mills of Cherokee, N.C. The Blanks themselves are Hand Made by a Marvelous Craftsman Overseas. Only the Finest Kiln Dried Tonkin Cane is used on these Blanks. The Blanks all come with Two Tips and a Cloth Bag. They are truly Supurb in every way. They are Arrow Straight. Just Think....Now you can Build your own Hardy Marvell at a fraction of the $ 3,000.00 it would cost you today to buy one. The Tapers are all taken from Gould's Book Tips and Tapers. They Follow the original tapers to the T.
Most of the current rodmakers have tweeked the old tapers to make them more refined
and better suited for todays fishing.
I hollow build some of my models to lighten and smooth out the action.
I developed this over 8 years of rodbuilding
These blanks are made in china by Zues rod company.
The quality of their early rods was very bad with delaminations and the ferrules coming off. I have heard that their quality has improved:nose-picking:
I do not recomend these rods.
The only thing that matters is if you like the rod and the way it casts.
only time will tell if it will hold up to fishing.
If you make it up to the Catskills on the 12 th. I would like to see it
Hope it works out for you and turns out to be a great rod.
The green writing was added by me.
Ronbo
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Trout Fever
New member
i have a bamboo dream haha someday i will own one lol i have time i casted broadheads and man was that sweet everything i would want in a rod
golden beetle
Active member
Wow. That was one of the best posts ever to NEFF.
Trout Fever
New member
GB your on a roll 61 post and counting hahah
MACFLY
Too many streams too little time
Here is a review that was done on these rods. Everyone is entitled to their opinions.
Fly Fishing Product Review - The Resurgence of Bamboo
Fly Fishing Product Review - The Resurgence of Bamboo
golden beetle
Active member
I still think a bad bamboo rod like yours is pretty cool to have.
MACFLY
Too many streams too little time
Since your stated purpose on this forum is stir up trouble what do you think my response will be now. I could do one of the following
A: come up to the rodbuilding festival and beat the living daylights out of you (personally satisfying but probably not worth the drive)
B: start to engage you in a long drawn out battle on this forum which will be entertaining for all to watch but Im a seasoned veteran on these matters and frankly your not the challenge you believe yourself to be
C: Hit the ignore button and cruise on forward (my personal favorite)
D: A and C
e: A and B
f: all of the above
g: none of the above
h: fill in the blank
Maybe we should put it to a vote. Everyone PM me with your vote and I will post the results..Dont worry I will make sure we dont the same person voting twice.
golden beetle
Active member
Read my posts to this thread. I was actually trying to be helpful.
It just happens that you bought a rod that I would have advised you against buying. I am also advising others to consider carefully whether or not "cheap" bamboo rods are a viable alternative. I don't think so.
Broadheadscreek
Proud Member Of The 10% Club
I do not judge people by what fly rod or reel they may own or use ,as it is not the equipment that makes a fisherman but the the fisherman himself that makes the equipment . I just bough an HI Lucky strike it is a 3pc 7 1/2 ' bamboo rod that to me has an awesome action and will cast a country mile . This particular rod is currently worth about 100 dollars in mint condition I got mine for 20 bux with a little tlc it will look awesome and will catch fish just like any other 1500-2500 dollar rod that I own.And I'll guarantee you I will catch fish and have fun with it.A lot of guys are going retro and cheap is in as in fiberglass and boo so what ever trips your trigger . These rods are the stepping stone to the more expensive end of the spectrum in this great sport.
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golden beetle
Active member
For low end rods, I buy graphite. LL Bean's streamlight is 100 bucks. It casts amazingly well.
Bamboo is a different game.
How many hours does a rodbuilder spend building a single rod?
How much are you paying for the rodbuilder's expertise?
NOT MUCH. I would guess that the average builder charges no more than 15 bucks for every hour of labor they put into a rod.
To cut corners and try to find cheap alternatives is not the way to go here, when the builders are not making much off of their wares as it is.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Bamboo is a different game.
How many hours does a rodbuilder spend building a single rod?
How much are you paying for the rodbuilder's expertise?
NOT MUCH. I would guess that the average builder charges no more than 15 bucks for every hour of labor they put into a rod.
To cut corners and try to find cheap alternatives is not the way to go here, when the builders are not making much off of their wares as it is.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
MACFLY
Too many streams too little time
I do not judge people by what fly rod or reel they may own or use ,as it is not the equipment that makes a fisherman but the the fisherman himself that makes the equipment . I just bough an HI Lucky strike it is a 3pc 7 1/2 ' bamboo rod that to me has an awesome action and will cast a country mile . This particular rod is currently worth about 100 dollars in mint condition I got mine for 20 bux with a little tlc it will look awesome and will catch fish just like any other 1500-2500 dollar rod that I own.And I'll guarantee you I will catch fish and have fun with it.A lot of guys are going retro and cheap is in as in fiberglass and boo so what ever trips your trigger . These rods are the stepping stone to the more expensive end of the spectrum in this great sport.
Allen thanks for the post I think this captures the essence of what I was trying to say. I started this thread because I was excited to get into the whole Bamboo game. Its yet another area I can explore and learn about. When TT asked the question about my new purchase I simply provided him with the information he requested. I have no desire to sell him a rod or a blank or anything. He is a big boy and can make his own mind up. Also I stated that I will likely buy a more expensive rod down the road but that I was impressed with the one I got and the price was right. Ronbo made his views plain at my request so its all good. I have now cast the rod everyday since I purchased it and I like it. Frankly that is all that matters to me....In fact I can throw a nice tailing loop on this rod Al. You will be impressed
trico mike
make mine wild
Has anybody have any info on Norman Agutters rods. It is a big operation in england I have been researching. It seems that his hand plained rods are pretty nice and fairly cheap. WAs thinking of buying a blank. Does anybody know if they are decent and worth the money?
SneakyPete
Steve
http://www.splitcaneblanks.com/index.php Has anybody on this board purchased a blank from this guy from the USA? Any good or bad news about them?
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Ronbo
Life's short fish bamboo!!
This is who I would recomend, He has been making Blanks for years and has a great reputation of providing quality blanks.
He posts on the classic flyrod forum under Taper maker
TaperMaker - Dennis Stone
Maker of Fine Bamboo Fly Rods, Stone Rod Co
He posts on the classic flyrod forum under Taper maker
TaperMaker - Dennis Stone
Maker of Fine Bamboo Fly Rods, Stone Rod Co
MACFLY
Too many streams too little time
This evening I got to cast another Bamboo rod that I am having made and I cant wait until its finished. I truly am in awe of the folks that can build these rods.
After having fished primarily fast action rods for the last 15 years its going to take a little getting used to fishing boo rods but I am hooked. BTW thanks Al for the casting tips this evening. It always helps having someone who has a great casting stroke and is also a lefty to show you the ropes. Thanks again...Peace out
After having fished primarily fast action rods for the last 15 years its going to take a little getting used to fishing boo rods but I am hooked. BTW thanks Al for the casting tips this evening. It always helps having someone who has a great casting stroke and is also a lefty to show you the ropes. Thanks again...Peace out
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Broadheadscreek
Proud Member Of The 10% Club
You have some sweet rods Paul can't wait to see you get into some fish with them it's going to be awesome.
MACFLY
Too many streams too little time
Anyone know what a fair price to pay for a Granger Victory Bamboo Rod 8 feet 6 inches with all original hardware in great shape. Slight alligatoring on some of the varnish but otherwise very nice 3pice 2 tips. asking 450. Dont know if the victory was considered a higher end rod or not
SneakyPete
Steve
I'm thinking the higher end Granger rods are the " Registered", "Aristocrat", "Favorite", "DeLuxe" and the "Premier" model ..
WBDluver
Official NEFF pot stirrer
according to the collectors guide I have. if it has both tips the values are as follows. poor to fair condition-90.00 good to VG - 225.00 and in excellent condt. 425.00
hope this helps.
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FYI the publication I am using is "Antique & collectible fishing rods, Identification and value guide." by D.B.Homel
hope this helps.
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FYI the publication I am using is "Antique & collectible fishing rods, Identification and value guide." by D.B.Homel
MACFLY
Too many streams too little time
Thanks I may purchase this book. It looks like it could be quite useful.
Trouser Trout
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Don't do it Macfly, you will find out your crap isn't worth half of what you paid. You will get depressed and start giving it away, PM me when this happens.....
MACFLY
Too many streams too little time
Don't do it Macfly, you will find out your crap isn't worth half of what you paid. You will get depressed and start giving it away, PM me when this happens.....
Its ok TT I just had my crappy bamboo rod appraised. The gentleman told me it was worth 25000 lek
Trouser Trout
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
WBDluver
Official NEFF pot stirrer
know of them? I cant even find them on the web. Listen, I see you are struggling with this purchase. As a fellow flyfisher I am here to help. Just give me your credit card numbers and I will surprise you and pick out something nice. Don't worry about the money. Money is made to be spent and they print more of it all the time.
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Here to help , again. I will make you a deal, I have a south bend #59 (original bag) and #47 (original bag and tube), a Phillipson Pacemaker 9ft (original bag, after market tube) and a Heddon #17 in excellent condt. two perfect tips, original bag and original tube $750 For them all.
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Here to help , again. I will make you a deal, I have a south bend #59 (original bag) and #47 (original bag and tube), a Phillipson Pacemaker 9ft (original bag, after market tube) and a Heddon #17 in excellent condt. two perfect tips, original bag and original tube $750 For them all.
